So who does own these websites? John Gill denies ownership and yet is name is mentioned as a contact in the registration details (see below), the email name for the VLPS is the same name as the contact name on the registration of the website rateyoursolicitor.com.
Mr. Gill seems to have at the very least, an incredibly close connection with both these sites.
Read the details and make up your own mind.
rateyoursolicitor.com
Is registered to: TDI, The Mill, Caher, County Tipperary
Registrar: DOTSTER Domain
Name: RATEYOURSOLICITOR.COM
Created on: 02-JUL-05 Expires on: 02-JUL-11
Last Updated on: 10-OCT-08
Administrative Technical Contact: Fitzgerald, Bill lawyercatcher @ eml.cc
TDI The Mill Caher, County Tipperary n/a IE +353-5242810
On a website called tcal dot net, a poster going by the name of "stella" (whose name when clicked brought me right back to the VPLS site) posted the following on the 16th of September 2006:
"The link to this article is crookedlawyers.com. Please note that rateyoursolicitor.com does not belong to victims of the legal profession, it is a link upon their website."
HOWEVER:From the Irish Independent 10th November 2005:
"A group calling itself Victims of the Legal Profession Society (VLPS) has purchased the domain name rate your solicitor .com and plans to use the site to expose "rogue solicitors"."
AND in a Donegal newspaper where members of the group were publicising the setting up of said group:
"The group have also set up their own website, rateyoursolicitor.com, where members of the public can rate and comment on their personal experiences with a solicitor."
AND on the guestbook of the VLPS a posting from the VPLS on the 13th of September 2006:
"Please note, debates about rateyoursolicitor.com have been moved to OUR new Forum: rateyoursolicitor.com/forum ..."
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crookedlawyers.com
Registrant: c/o CROOKEDLAWYERS.COM
P.O. Box 821650 Vancouver, WA 98682 US
Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: CROOKEDLAWYERS.COM
Created on: 24-JUL-04 Expires on: 24-JUL-09
Last Updated on: 02-AUG-07
Administrative Contact:
zVN9Wl@privacypost.com
c/o CROOKEDLAWYERS.COM
P.O. Box 821650
Vancouver, WA 98682 US +1.360-449-5933
Technical Contact: gtkcAD@privacypost.com
CROOKEDLAWYERS.COM, P.O. Box 821650, Vancouver, WA 98682, US +1.360-449-5933
Current Registrar: DOTSTER, INC.
IP Address: 64.202.166.207 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: US(UNITED STATES)-NEW YORK-NEW YORK
Record Type: Domain Name
Server Type: Apache
Lock Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Web Site Status: Active
DMOZ no listings
Y! Directory: see listings
Web Site Title: Victims of the Legal Profession Society
Meta Description: Support group for the many victims of the corrupt legal system in Ireland (including solicitors and barristers), with Case Histories written by victims.
Meta Keywords: VICTIMS,LEGAL,LAWYER,SOLICITOR,IRELAND,SUPPORT GROUP,CORRUPT,JUSTICE,PROFESSION,JOHN GILL
Secure: No
E-commerce: No
Traffic Ranking: 1
Data as of: 27-Nov-2006
On the VPLS website, crookedlawyers.com, the contact name is John Gill. Note too the email address. lawyercatcher. Then note the email address for the administrator of rateyoursolicitor.com: lawyercatcher.
For questions and comments regarding the legal profession, email the VLPS lawyercatcher@lawyer.com>
Or you can write to the VLPS Public Relations Officer:
John Gill Drumline Newmarket-on-Fergus Co. Clare Ireland
Tel.: + 353 61 360 436
Fax: 001 215 3265471
In a letter to the Revenue Commissioners dated 21/1/08, John Gill referred to the website as "OUR website".
"In the eyes of honest men and women at home in Ireland and those viewing our website all over the world there will be rejoicing at the exposure and elimination of corruption in Ireland."
From crookedlawyers.com November 2005:
"Latest News
A new domain, RateYourSolicitor.com has been purchased by the VLPS. It will be similar to the popular RateMyTeachers.ie site. Contributions from members of the public are very welcome, please send to lawyercatcher@lawyer.com"
And from crookedlawyers.com January 2006:
"This site (rateyoursolicitor) requires professional expertise, which of course we will have to pay for, so any donations for this will be very welcome indeed.
Please send to Mr John Gill, Drumline, Newmarket-on-Fergus, Co. Clare."So, a man who does not own the site (he says) was asking the public to send him money? It can only be one of 2 things Mr. Gill either lied then and asked for donations even though he did not own the site or lied subsequently, particularly during the Jayne Maguire case ~ from RTE News: "Mr Gill denies being responsible for the site.".
But then of course, they change direction again. From crookedlawyer.com 4th of October 2006:
"The RYS management has noted Mr. John Gill's appeal to have the original remarks posted in this place about Ms Jayne Maguire, barrister, removed in order to stop his continued harassment by Irish lawyers. This harassment is completely uncalled for, as RYS is a completely independent organization without any legal ties whatsoever to the VLPS, and neither Mr. Gill nor any other members of the VLPS committee have ever had any knowledge of or influence on RYS policies."
But then from rateyoursolicitor.com 26th of April 2006:
"If you have a longer story that you would like to make public, consider being published in the Case Histories on our sister site, CrookedLawyers.com"
But then on tcal.net on the 17th of September 2006, a poster calling him or herself 'Stella', whos name when clicked links directly back to crookedlawyer.com says:
"The link to this article is www.crookedlawyers.com. Please note that rateyoursolicitor.com does not belong to victims of the legal profession, it is a link upon their website. How can John Gill be held or amde (sic) accountable for public opinion. If you want the real stroy it is simple the legal profession are looking for a way to close down the web site, www.crookedlawyers.com, because of the implications of the evidence on those web pages, and how they expose the corruption in Ireland- we cannot let this happen as it has impact on the media as well!!!But interestingly, if you had hit 'Contact Us' link on the rateyoursolicitor.com site on the 26th of April 2006, it would take you to ... yes, that's right, the Contact page on crookedlawyers.com and John Gill's contact details!
Mr. Gill and the VLPS mantra is: You Can't Improve on the Truth.
What is the truth?
Is anyone, having read all the above, in any doubt? I think not.
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INTRODUCTION
My name is Catherine McGlynn, wife of Sean McGlynn, a solicitor based in his home town of Letterkenny, County Donegal, Ireland. My husband qualified in 1987 and worked in a local solicitors office until we opened our own office, Sean McGlynn & Co. on the 20th of August 1990.
Our client base includes many natives of Donegal together with their extended families. The majority of our business is referals from existing clients, their friends and their families.
We first became acquainted with the Victims of the Legal Profession through the case of Madge Friel, deceased, who died on the 31st of March 2001.
Since becoming acquainted with the Victims of the Legal Profession we have suffered nothing but abuse, slander, lies, and defamation. As has anyone and everyone involved in this case including our Barrister, Niall O'Neill, court staff both of the Circuit Court in Letterkenny and the High Court in Dublin, Judges, the Garda Siochana (Police), the then Taniste (Ireland's Deputy Prime Minister) Mary Coughlan, friends and family.
email: vlpexposed@gmail.com
Our client base includes many natives of Donegal together with their extended families. The majority of our business is referals from existing clients, their friends and their families.
We first became acquainted with the Victims of the Legal Profession through the case of Madge Friel, deceased, who died on the 31st of March 2001.
Since becoming acquainted with the Victims of the Legal Profession we have suffered nothing but abuse, slander, lies, and defamation. As has anyone and everyone involved in this case including our Barrister, Niall O'Neill, court staff both of the Circuit Court in Letterkenny and the High Court in Dublin, Judges, the Garda Siochana (Police), the then Taniste (Ireland's Deputy Prime Minister) Mary Coughlan, friends and family.
email: vlpexposed@gmail.com
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